Guest Blog: No Money, No Team: The Rise and Fall of Stalybridge Rovers

In the week when the musician Stevie Wonder turned up in Stalybridge for a meal it seems appropriate that the latest guest blog on this site is about football in that town. It’s by Neil Wolstenholme and Peter Hoctor. They are both Stalybridge natives and Stalybridge Celtic supporters. Neil is a former Celtic player and his father was a director of the club. Peter’s father was the club’s groundsman for many years. Today they’re talking about their new book on Stalybridge’s early football history. This piece talks of Stalybridge’s ‘other’ team Stalybridge Rovers. If you’re interested in football in Tameside or on the early history of the sport then get yourself a copy. It’s a fascinating book. Enjoy!

In April 1908 Stalybridge Rovers were due to play at Clitheroe. They never turned up. Instead, a telegram arrived with four words: ‘No money, no team.’

We were both born and bred in Stalybridge and we’re both Stalybridge Celtic fans. We had vaguely heard of Stalybridge Rovers, but we knew little about them until we started researching a book on Celtic. Most of their story had been forgotten or simply erased. Piece by piece, the old newspapers revealed a club which had won the Lancashire League, reached the first round proper of the FA Cup and twice tried to get into the Football League. That research became No Money, No Team: An early history of professional football in Stalybridge, 1880 to 1923.

So, who came before Rovers? Stalybridge St George’s, founded in 1883, with their headquarters at the Bull’s Head Inn and a pitch at Crookbottom. By 1887 they were the town’s leading club and members of the new Lancashire FA. Then, in January 1888, smallpox broke out in Stalybridge. Opponents refused to visit, fixtures were postponed for weeks, and the Saints faded away. Shades of 2020. By December 1888 the local paper was calling the new Stalybridge Rovers ‘late St George’s’.

Readers of this site will know Rovers’ world well. They played Ardwick, Newton Heath and Hurst, and in the 1890s they had a fierce rivalry with Ashton North End which could pull in 8,000 people. In October 1893 Newton Heath came to Crookbottom and the Clarion sent its writer, ‘the Bounder’, to kick off. He was not a fan: ‘There is no wetter place in England than Stalybridge.’ Having grown up there, we can’t really argue. In 1900 Rovers went to Hyde Road in the Manchester Senior Cup and lost 4-0, with legendary Billy Meredith scoring twice.

Some remarkable men wore the amber and black. Arthur Wharton, widely regarded as the world’s first black professional footballer, kept goal and captained the side. Herbert Chapman, later the very successful manager of Huddersfield Town and Arsenal, played for Rovers long before he changed how the game was played.

The good times rolled in 1899-1900 and 1900-01. Rovers knocked out Stockport County and Burslem Port Vale to reach the FA Cup first round proper, and 400 supporters caught a special train through the night to watch them lose 2-1 at Bristol City. The next season they won the Lancashire League on goal average. They applied to join the Football League in both years, gathering just one vote, then seven.

Within seven years of winning the league, Rovers were gone. How a champion club could fall so far, so fast, in a town which loved its football, is the story at the heart of the book.

Into the gap left by Rovers stepped a new club, Stalybridge Celtic, with a very different kind of backer. Herbert Rhodes was a local mill owner and magistrate, and with his support Celtic would go where Rovers never could, all the way into the Football League. Whether his money was enough, and whether Celtic learned from Rovers’ mistakes, is another matter.

This is a football story, but it is also a story about money. Without it, a club cannot compete and the reach for glory can end in disaster. Rovers were far from the last to learn that lesson. There have been numerous casualties. In 1962 Accrington Stanley resigned from the Football League in the middle of the season. In the 1980s Wolves slid from the First Division to the Fourth, while Bristol City survived only because eight players tore up their contracts. Aldershot and Maidstone United both went under in 1992. Leeds United borrowed to ‘live the dream’ and ended up in administration, Portsmouth won the FA Cup and then became the first Premier League club to go bust, and Glasgow Rangers were liquidated and restarted in Scotland’s fourth tier. More recently Bury were thrown out of the Football League and Macclesfield Town were wound up. The names and places may be different, but the pattern is one Rovers would have recognised.

What happened to Wharton after Stalybridge? Why did the League turn Rovers away? And how far was Herbert Rhodes prepared to go for Celtic? It’s all in No Money, No Team.

The book is available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/106666370X.

Every penny of profit goes to the Stalybridge Celtic junior teams, so if you buy a copy you’re helping the next generation of Celtic players.

Neil Wolstenholme and Peter Hoctor are both Stalybridge natives and Celtic supporters. Neil is a former Celtic player and his father was a director of the club. Peter’s father was the club’s groundsman for many years.

Back To The 1890s For The First League Manchester Derby

Today (3 November) is the anniversary of the first ever Manchester derby played in the Football League. The match between Manchester City and Newton Heath was played at City’s Hyde Road ground today in 1894. You can read the story of the game (with all the stats, background etc.) here:

Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Nine)

Every week I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the eighth chapter of the book (a 11,200 word section). This focuses on the establishment of Manchester United and demise of Newton Heath, plus the first major trophy won by one of the city’s clubs. Fans of both Manchester’s League teams should find something in it for them as it talks of how Manchester gained its footballing identity. Bury fans will also be happy as this talks of their FA Cup successes too.

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Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Eight)

Every Monday I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the seventh chapter of the book (a 10,500 word section). This focuses on football as a business (yes, it was a business even then!), the move into league football for Manchester’s clubs and the relaunch of them as Manchester City and Manchester United.

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Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Seven)

Every Monday I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the sixth chapter of the book (a 10,000 word section). This focuses on the earliest Manchester entrants in the FA Cup, as well as Ardwick AFC and Newton Heath.

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Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Six)

Every Monday I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the fifth chapter of the book (a 8,200 word section). This focuses on the establishment of clubs in the 1870s and 1880s, including City and United’s predecessors.

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Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Five)

Every Monday I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the fourth chapter of the book (a 11,000 word section). This focuses on the footballing communities that developed during the mid to late 1800s.

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Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Four)

Every Monday I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the third chapter of the book (a 11,500 word section). This focuses on the mid 1800s and the development of Manchester’s earliest known association football club Hulme Athenaeum and its long term impact.

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Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Three)

Every Monday I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the second chapter of the book (another 5,000 word section). This focuses mainly on the early to mid 1800s and talks of the development of Manchester and the sporting growth occurring at that time, including forms of football as well as cricket and horse racing etc..

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Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Two)

Every Monday I’m posting a section from my book ‘The Emergence of Footballing Cultures: Manchester 1840-1919’. It tells the story of the origins of men’s football in Manchester and discusses the birth of both City and United plus the clubs that predated them such as Hulme Athenaeum, Manchester AFC, Birch etc. Today’s section is the first chapter of the book (a 5,000 word section). This focuses mainly on the middle ages up to the early 1800s and talks of the 1608 ban on football in Manchester, Peterloo and leisure activities such as cockfighting and early cricket activity, as well as football of course. There is material in every section of the book that should interest fans of Manchester football, no matter which team you support, or academic researchers/historians.

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