Hyde v Preston – A Record Breaking Day

On 15 October 1887 one of the most remarkable FA Cup games of all time occurred at Preston and featured Hyde FC, who were formed in 1885 at a meeting attended by approximately forty men in the White Lion public house.

At the start of the 1886-87 season one of the giants of the period, Blackburn Rovers, were invited to Hyde for a friendly which Hyde lost 8-0 but afterwards members of Blackburn’s side stressed they believed Hyde had potential.

These comments encouraged Hyde to enter the FA Cup the following season and they opened the 1887-88 season with a friendly against significant opposition with Bolton defeating Hyde 8-1. 

Preston had arranged a fixture with West Bromwich Albion and wanted to play the FA Cup tie midweek instead. Hyde, because of the complications a midweek game would have caused, rightly refused and, as a result, Preston made it clear that they would do all they could to win the match – in those days friendlies were often perceived as being more lucrative than FA Cup ties (actually we’re back at that point now in 2020s England for some clubs!).

The game commenced on 15 October 1887 at 3.30pm and within five minutes Fred Dewhurst headed Preston’s first goal and the score reached 4-0 after approximately twenty minutes. 

According to reports the Preston goalkeeper didn’t touch the ball until the twenty-fifth minute when he took a goal kick, but by this point Hyde was already a struggling side and almost immediately after the goal kick Preston challenged Hyde’s goal again with Hyde conceding three goals in five minutes. By half time they had scored twelve goals.

Hyde commenced the second half determined to demonstrate an attacking spirit and they briefly put Preston under some pressure but Preston soon regained the initiative and the goals flooded in. 

Match reports simply list the scorers from this point on as, presumably, the pace was so frenetic that it was impossible for the reporters to record the general action, and the final score was 26-0. There had been significant controversy and confusion as Hyde’s centre-back Bowers had left the pitch with a sprained arm at 3-0 and Preston allowed the Hydonians to bring on another player for the second half even though substitutions were not allowed at this point in football history. Presumably they had felt a half time twelve goal lead was enough of a cushion. 

Famous Lancashire cricketer and footballer Richard Barlow played his part in the large victory as he was the referee, emphasising the continuing existence of a local sporting elite that crossed the conurbation. 

Barlow had played an additional five minutes during which time Preston’s last goal was scored and the reason this additional time was played remains unclear, although some suggested the referee was simply too involved with the action to check his watch, while others over the years that followed claimed his watch had stopped and that an additional ten or fifteen minutes had actually been played. 

Whatever the truth this was a remarkable victory for Preston. Despite the scoreline, Hyde’s goalkeeper Bunyan was regarded as one of the best players on the pitch. The referee, himself a former goalkeeper with Manchester Association, was equal in his praise when reflecting on the game in 1908: ‘I may say that had the Hyde goalkeeper not been in good form, North End would have materially increased their score. I have never seen such splendid passing and shooting in my life. The old Preston team would, in my opinion, be at least two goals better than any team in the field at the present day.’

After the game Hyde and Preston regularly played each other in friendlies, and the two sides also met to raise money for the victims of the Hyde Coal mining disaster of 1889 – that same year Newton Heath LY&R and Ardwick met under floodlights at Belle Vue to raise money for the families. Walter Chew, the Ardwick secretary, was responsible for organising the floodlit match in February 1889, which raised £240 for the families of the twenty-three killed in the disaster. This is believed to be the first floodlit association match played in the area, although there is anecdotal evidence to suggest that Preston played against Ardwick at Hyde Road around the same time under artificial light and there was also a meeting between Everton and Ardwick on 10 March 1890 under artificial light. 

In 1987 Preston and Hyde United met to remember the 1887 FA Cup tie. This time Preston defeated Hyde 4-1 on their plastic pitch at Ewen Fields.

In the FA Cup Hyde were drawn away to Preston North End, who had reached the semi-finals the previous season and were recognised as a leading side. For Hyde, the game was expected to be exceptionally tough, however there was some controversy pre-match. 

Manchester 1840-1919 (Part Seven)

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Trautmann’s Last

On this day (28 March) in 1964 legendary Bert Trautmann played his last competitive first team game for Manchester City. At the time he was the Blues’ record appearance holder with a total of 545 first team appearances. Sadly his final game ended in a 2-0 League defeat at Preston and the great man was beaten with a penalty scored by former Manchester United forward Alex Dawson. Brian Godfrey was the last player to score against Trautmann while he was a City first team player.

Interestingly the Guardian match report of the game mentions Trautmann a couple of times. Once when he accidentally kicked an opposition player and the other time it said that ‘Trautmann wears well and delighted the crowd with several fine saves.’ The Preston fans must have given him the kind of respect he deserved.

Double The Crowd: Crerand’s Bet With Allison

60 years ago this week (March 1966) Manchester City announced that their FA Cup quarter final was a 63,000 sell out. Why is this significant? Because the attendance was larger than any domestic crowd at Old Trafford that season, but why is that significant? Because at the start of the season United’s Pat Crerand bet City assistant manager Malcolm Allison that City would never get more than 30,000 for a game again! I interviewed Malcolm back in 1993 when we talked about this and he also mentioned it in he biography. The story…

Basically, Allison was sat at United’s League championship celebration and became somewhat frustrated by the glorification of United that night. While Joe Mercer took a diplomatic approach, afterall it was United’s celebration dinner, Allison decided to speak out. He told Matt Busby’s son Sandy that his dad had a twenty year start but ‘I’ll pass him in three’ and then Allison claimed he got into a discussion with Crerand about ‘little City’ compared to United. Allison claimed Crerand made a £10 bet with him that City would never again get 30,000+ in Maine Road.

A pause in the action (September 1967 Manchester derby) gives Summerbee Crerand and Dunne an opportunity to debate the action so far (Image: The Pride of Manchester, 1991)

On a Wednesday night in October (27/10/65) City attracted 34,091 for the visit of Norwich in the Second Division. Allison told me he couldn’t remember whether he ever got his £10 but he did laugh a great deal when I told him that United’s attendance the previous Saturday was 32,716 for the top flight visit of Fulham.

Malcolm Allison at the launch of Gary James’ Football With A Smile: The Authorised Biography of Joe Mercer, OBE in December 1993. Note Francis Lee appearing behind Allison.

What was even more remarkable was that the City-Everton FAC tie on 26 March 1966 was watched by 63,034 and that was higher than any domestic crowd at United that season. Allison laughed again when we discussed that briefly. As a comparison, United attracted 58,161 for their League game with Liverpool (lowest home League attendance 23,039 v Aston Villa) and they did get 60,433 for their FAC Cup quarter-final replay with Preston. Plus United managed to better all these attendances with 64,035 for their European Cup quarter-final with Benfica.

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David Johnson

After a glittering career with Preston, Everton and Liverpool, striker David Johnson joined Manchester City on this day (21 March) in 1984.  Johnson scored on his City debut – an 83rd minute equaliser v Cardiff in a game the Blues went on to win 2-1. Unfortunately, despite a reputation as a lethal striker – and hard evidence of achievement – Johnson’s time at Maine Road was not particularly successful.  After one goal in four (plus two as substitute) games Johnson moved to play soccer in North America in May 1984.   

Johnson died in November 2022 and the following piece was written by Samuel Meade and published in the Mirror:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/grame-souness-david-johnson-tribute-28569782

The 2020s: Victory over Swansea

On this day (10 February) in 2021 Manchester City travelled to Swansea for a FA Cup tie. It was another record-breaking day for Pep Guadiola’s team.

City defeated Swansea 3-1 to progress to the quarter-finals but the victory set a record for successive domestic wins by an English top-flight club, surpassing the previous best of 14 achieved by Preston in 1891-92 and Arsenal in 1987-88. Talking about City’s 15th consecutive win Guardiola commented: ‘It shows how special these players are. And we think of the next one. I know we broke a record of all-time. To do what we have done so far is quite remarkable. The record will be broken for sure, because sports is like this, but it means a lot, to do what we have done in the winter time and Christmas time is quite remarkable. It is the toughest time, but what is important is the way we are still playing with our consistency.’

City’s goals were scored by Kyle Walker (30 mins), Raheem Sterling (47) and Gabriel Jesus (50), with Morgan Whittaker (77) scoring a late consolation goal for Swansea at the Liberty Stadium.

City have highlights here:

https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/swansea-city-v-manchester-city-63748586

The 1950s: Stanley Matthews’ 250th Blackpool League Game (A MCFC Victory)

Seventy years ago today (4 February 1956) Stanley Matthews made his 250th league appearance for Blackpool on a snow covered Bloomfield Road ground. In treacherous conditions Manchester City defeated the home team 1-0 with a goal from Roy Faulkner. Interestingly Faulkner only ever made 7 first team appearances for City but scored 4 goals. This match report highlights Faulkner’s contribution. Notice also the mention of Joe Mercer’s early managerial career (Sheffield United match report).

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60 Years Ago Today: Manchester City and Blackpool FAC Tie at Bloomfield Rd

On this day (22 January) in 1966 Manchester City travelled to Blackpool for a FA Cup tie. The game ended 1-1 between the Second Division promotion hopefuls and the First Division side. In this photo Glyn Pardoe has scored City’s goal. Subscribers can find out more about this game below, plus read several contemporary match reports:

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The 1910s: 1915-1916 Wartime Champions

The new series of features on Manchester City in the 1910s continues today with an article on the 1915-16 season. People often claim men’s football stopped in the war but it did not. Regional leagues were established and there was regular competition across the Manchester region. City found trophy success too! If you’re a subscriber you can read all about this season below. If you’re not a subscriber then why not sign up for a month and see what you think?

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60 Years Ago Today: Manchester City in Unusual Kit at Home

On this day (15 January) in 1966 Manchester City drew 0-0 with Preston at Maine Road but look at the kit City are wearing. This photo shows George Heslop (5) and Alan Oakes (6) in unusual colours for Maine Road. Subscribers can find out more about this kit and day below, plus read several contemporary match reports:

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