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Manchester City v Arsenal: History Comparison

‘History Tradition Class’ is often used on Arsenal banners (particularly when they play City it seems; there was one at Wembley) and with the two sides meeting on Sunday (19 April 2026) it seems like the same lines will be trotted out again. So for today’s feature I’ve decided to have a look at the history of the two clubs to compare successes. It seems to me that if a club claims that their club has something that another does not then it’s only fair to test that idea. Anyway here goes….

What do we mean by history? Is it success? Is it a ‘first’ that predates the rest. Is it more trophies? Is it longevity? Is it just nonsense? (probably!). So here are a few comparisons of achievements just to get the ball rolling:

Major trophies won or achievements made:

Trophy/AchievementYear & teamOther Team
Joined the League1892 (City as Ardwick AFC)1893 (Woolwich Arsenal)
Promotion1899 (City)1904 (Arsenal)
Second Division Champions1899 (City)Never
Major Trophy1904 (City)1930 (Arsenal)
FA Cup1904 (City)1930 (Arsenal)
League1931 (Arsenal)1937 (City)
League Cup1970 (City)1987 (Arsenal)
ECWC1970 (City)1994 (Arsenal)
Fairs Cup1970 (Arsenal)Never
Domestic Treble2019 (City)Never
Traditional Treble2023 (City)Never
European Cup2023 (City)Never
Super Cup2023 (City)Never
Club World Cup2023 (City)Never
Community Shield1930 (Arsenal)1937 (City)

I’ll show more comparisons on success in a moment but first how about attendance comparisons?

The highest home attendance by either club is: 84,569 (City). Arsenal’s record attendance is over 10,000 lower at 73,707, achieved at a European game at Wembley.

Record League attendance: 79,491 (City);  73,295 (Arsenal).

The first time either side were the best supported team in the League: 1910-11 (City). Arsenal first achieved this feat almost 20 years later in 1929-30.

Okay, what about first and most recent successes? Here’s a list of the major trophies won by these sides listed with the first time one of the team’s achieved that success and the most recent time:

Trophy/AchievementFirst TeamMost RecentTeam
Major Trophy1904City2026City
FA Cup1904City2023City
League1931Arsenal2024City
League Cup1970City2026City
ECWC1970City1994Arsenal
Fairs Cup1970Arsenal1970Arsenal
European Cup2023City2023City
Super Cup2023City2023City
Club World Cup2023City2023City
Community Shield1930Arsenal2024City
Domnestic Treble2019City2019City
Traditional Treble2023City2023City

Interesting stats but what about most trophies won? Surely there’s a big difference? Err, well not really:

MOST TROPHIES WON
TrophyNumber & TeamOther Team
FA Cup14 (Arsenal)7 (City)
League13 (Arsenal)10 (City)
League Cup 9 (City)2 (Arsenal)
Club World Cup1 (City)
Super Cup1 (City)
European Cup 1 (City)
ECWC1 (both City & Arsenal)
Fairs Cup1 (Arsenal)
Total31 (Arsenal)30 (City)

I’m sure someone will say ‘but take the Super Cup off as it’s like the Community Shield’. Okay but that still means that after all these decades there are only 2 major trophies separating City and Arsenal. Also, there are some sports historians who would say ‘remove the Fairs Cup’ as that wasn’t a UEFA tournament and the rules of entry meant that often teams finishing in a position that should allow entry couldn’t enter as only one team per city could enter. In 1969 Everton finished above Arsenal and were denied entry into the Fairs Cup because Liverpool had already qualified. Similarly Chelsea, Spurs and West Ham were denied entry due to Arsenal qualifying. The same was true across Europe. In earlier years ‘London’ had entered the competition.

I’m not going to say that Manchester City’s history is greater than any other club, nor should any other person say that about their club. Each club has its own successes and failures; reasons to be proud and moments to forget. However, when a club or its fans try to claim superiority over another because of their ‘history’ or ‘tradition’ or ‘class’ (maybe I’ll do that another day) then it’s only fair to highlight the history and tradition of success other clubs have enjoyed.

A Manchester City Origins Event

How time flies? On this day (April 11) in 2019 I staged an event at the Dancehouse in central Manchester to commemorate the 125th anniversary of Manchester City. We had a packed audience for the event and I intended to stage at least one event like this every year (then Covid happened!).

In 2019 I managed three special events at the Dancehouse connected with Manchester City’s history. In June there was the most recent showing of The Boys In Blue (my collaboration with the North West Film Archive at Manchester Metropolitan University) which provided exclusive films of the club from 1905 through to the modern era.

In September there was the launch of Manchester City Women: An Oral History (you can buy that book here: https://gjfootballarchive.com/shop/ ). This was a celebration of the history of the women’s club with guests from every era of the club’s history including many founding players and also England international Karen Bardsley.

I had hoped to stage events in 2020 and 2021 but back in April 2019 there was the commemoration of the 125th anniversary of the club’s birth as Manchester City. The talk of course went back further and discussed the 1870s and 1880s where I hoped to kill off a few myths. I’m still trying to kill off some of these myths. See:

The Origins of Manchester City: Facts Not Fiction

The 2019 presentation didn’t just dwell on the formative years of the club as I covered stories connected with Maine Road, fans and more. The following images are slides from that day and give an indication of what was covered.

I’d love to do further shows like these and perhaps resurrect the idea of doing at least one a year but I’d need a venue and would also need to find a way to cover costs. Any ideas welcome.

City Were 8 Points behind United and all was lost, or was it?

On this day (April 11) in 2012 Roberto Mancini’s Manchester City lay eight points behind Alex Ferguson’s Manchester United and possessed an inferior goal difference (two goals) after the same number of games. There were only six games left to play and, as far as the wider public was concerned, it was only a matter of time before United won the title. But things began to change on this day in 2012 when City faced West Bromwich Albion.

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The 1940s: Manchester City 4 Manchester United 1

On this day (10 April) in 1944 the North Regional League (a wartime league) Manchester derby ended in a 4-1 City victory over United. The City scorers were Les McDowall (3) and Les Bardsley. The United scorer was Billy Bryant and the game was watched by an official crowd of 18,990 at Maine Road (a City home game). The image shows that days results in the war leagues.

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King Colin’s Crown

Today (10 April 2026) marks the 50th anniversary of the day City legend Colin Bell was crowned. The story has entered folklore about the day when a fan – Dave Brammer – ran on to the Maine Road pitch with a crown he had specially made for the occasion and placed it on the head of Colin as the player warmed up just before kick-off.  This photo recently rediscovered captures the moment and you can read more about this remarkable day and see other photos of Colin in action that day below (this is a subscriber article – see below for details).

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Kiki Musampa’s Strike Against Liverpool

On this day (April 9) in 2005 a 90th minute volley from Kiki Musampa – his first for the Blues – at the northern end of the stadium gave Manchester City a 1-0 home victory over eventual European Champions Liverpool.  This was Stuart Pearce’s first league victory as City manager.

The Musampa goal was described at the time as a ‘spectacular volley’.

Former City and England captain Pearce guided the Blues through the final nine games of 2004-05 after the departure of Kevin Keegan.  Apart from a 2-1 defeat in his first game, the Blues were unbeaten until the end of the season.  This run included the victory over Liverpool and wins over Birmingham (3-0), Portsmouth (2-0) and Aston Villa (2-1).       

As a result Pearce was named the Barclays Premiership Manager of the Month for April. 

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Kidd’s Double

On this day (April 8) in 1977 two goals from Brian Kidd gave Manchester City a 2-1 victory over Leeds at Maine Road.  A crowd of 47,727 witnessed the game as the Blues challenged for the League title. This result saw City move a point behind the League leaders Ipswich Town, managed by Bobby Robson.

It had not been a convincing City performance but there had been injury issues with Mike Doyle and Brian Kidd playing in an unorthodox midfield – my biography of Peter Barnes goes in to a lot of detail about these easter 1977 games. You can order that here:

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Leeds had taken the lead with Joe Jordan heading home after 17 minutes. Kidd equalised in the 38th minute after Joe Royle’s pass bounced off Leeds’ Trevor Cherry. Kidd’s second came when he flicked in the winner after Paul Madeley had seemingly headed clear a Peter Barnes corner in the 64th minute.

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Mayhem in Manchester

On this day (April 7) in 1992 a Keith Curle penalty, in front of an Old Trafford crowd of 46,781, helped Manchester City to a 1-1 draw in a controversial Manchester derby.  The game was viewed as being highly significant in the title race as only four days earlier the Blues had beaten title-hopefuls Leeds 4-0 at Maine Road. Here’s the story of that game including quotes from an interview I performed with Neil Pointon, who gives his views on a controversial incident that was pivotal to this derby…

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The 2020s: Victory over Borussia Dortmund

On this day (6 April) in 2021 Manchester City had a tough Champions League first leg at Borussia Dortmund. It ended 2-1 to City with Kevin De Bruyne opening the scoring on 19 minutes. Then in the final minute of normal time the same player sent a great cross in which was touched back by Gundogan for Phil Foden to send past goalkeeper Hirtz.

It had been a tense finish as future Blue Erling Haaland set Marco Reus for the German equaliser only six minutes from time. City’s determination had won through in a tough game.

The 1990s: Goater’s First Goal

On this day (4 April) in 1998 Shaun Goater scored his first goal for Manchester City. It came when City defeated near neighbours Stockport County 4-1 at Maine Road. As well as Goater’s first goal Richard Jobson also netted his first City goal while Lee Bradbury scored two.

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This series of articles and features will run throughout March with indepth articles some days and smaller ‘on this day’ style posts on others. There will be flashbacks to great games, players and more. Every day in March will offer something to enjoy.

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