Tony Book Interview

Over the years I met and interviewed Tony Book on many occasions. I last spoke with him at the MCFC Former Players Dinner earlier this season. As a tribute to him I’m posting here an interview I did with him back in May 2015. It wasn’t the first interview I did with him (that was in 1992 about Joe Mercer), but it is a reflective piece with Tony talking about his career. I always think it’s important when someone passes away to use their words where possible to talk about their career. You can read it below.

I’ve posted this exactly as it was written and published in 2015 so, obviously, references are to that era and before.

TALKING CITY WITH GARY JAMES

Tony Book joined City in 1966 and went on to become manager, winning the League Cup in 1976.

Let’s start with your birth certificate and the story that this was altered to give the impression you were a bit younger when signing.  Is this true?

Ah, it’s true, but I didn’t actually alter it. My birth certificate had been folded with a heavy crease down it, and I needed it when I was moving from Bath to join Plymouth where Malcolm Allison was the manager. He told them I was 28 but I was 30. Luckily, when I opened out my birth certificate the fold had meant that the final number in the year wasn’t clear, so they just took Malcolm’s word for it!  When I came here in 1966 I was 32 – for real – and we never hid my age.

It’s a good job, otherwise you’d have been celebrating your 80th two years late!  When you signed for City Malcolm had to persuade Joe Mercer to ignore your age didn’t he?

Yes. Joe was a similar age when he joined Arsenal, as you know Gary, and Malcolm said “look at what you did at Arsenal Joe” – he captained them to a couple of League titles and the FA Cup.  Little did we realise that something similar would happen to me at City. I always wanted to be a full time professional footballer and Malcolm gave me the chance.  I went playing in Toronto – it was the first time I’d trained in the day because I was a bricklayer by trade and had to train at night back home – before Plymouth and Malcolm came and talked with me after I’d played against a team of Italians over there.  He told me how much he liked my play and, well, after that he signed me for Plymouth and then City.  I was always grateful to Malcolm, but joining City was perfect.  The club under Joe and Malcolm was about to take off and I recognised as soon as I got here that there was a good nucleus of young lads who were ready. Doyle, Pardoe, Oakes, Dowd, Young… the list goes on.  I came in just after they’d got promoted and everything felt right.  I made my debut at Southampton on 20 August 1966 and, although that match ended goalless, it was clear those lads were enjoying their football.  Of course, Summerbee and Bell had been added and then Francis came in October 1967. That’s when we really took off. 

Tony Book 1969

How did it feel to be made captain of this team?

When Johnny Crossan left I was made captain because of my experience in football, not because of experience at the highest level because I didn’t have that.  But what I did know was football and the way a team operates.  I came to professional football late, but back then non-league teams did have quite a few former League players.  Some actually gave up League careers because, in the end, they could earn more in non-League and regular employment.  I always felt I had something to offer the younger guys because of that experience.

Being totally honest, what did you feel you’d do at City?  Did you think you’d be there for as long as you were?

I hoped I’d get a couple of years.  That’s all I felt I could get and I would have been very happy with two years at Manchester City, of course.  Back then City owned some club houses and I went in one – paying about £2.50 a week!  Because of what happened and the way the success came in my second year, Gary, I felt I could go on again. Winning the League in 1968 was like a spark and I wanted to keep the flame going.

Thinking about the title winning season of 1967-68, there were quite a few standout games. What are your memories of those?

There was the Spurs game at Christmas when we sharpened our studs to keep a grip on the surface and we really played a graceful, stylish game.  There was the derby at Old Trafford when I made a mistake. I was playing the sweeper role, I let the ball bounce, and George Best went through and stuck it right in the net in the first minute!  I couldn’t believe it and the lads lifted me and, Gary, we went on to play a brilliant game. We won 3-1 and that set us on course, but we still had nine games to play.  None of us had ever won a major trophy, but Malcolm and Joe were brilliant during that period.  Malcolm was great at relaxing us and there was never a doubt in his mind, and then in our minds, that we wouldn’t win it.  We believed in ourselves and with Colin Bell, Mike Summerbee and Francis Lee we knew we had that something special that champions need. I always felt that if we went behind one of those three would get us out of trouble. We had a great team throughout of course, and we complimented each other well across the park.  We all knew our roles.

After winning the League you suffered an Achilles injury, did you think that was the end?

No, but I was desperate to get back.  I tried everything. My leg was in plaster and as soon as they took it off I tried.  I played in a reserve game and Sidney Rose, the doctor who was also a director, saw me struggle. I felt it go again.  He stuck a needle in me and I had to rest. In the end I went to Christie’s, had a shot of radium, and that seemed to take the sting out of it all.  I don’t know whether that was the right treatment or not, but I began training and came back to the first team in January. 

Clearly, losing your influential captain for such a large period of the season had its effect on City in the League and in their first European Cup campaign, but once you returned you guided City to FA Cup success.  Was this another fairytale season for you?

I guess it was because winning the FA Cup was amazing. It was important for us to keep our success going and the FA Cup was viewed as something special, but I have to tell you Gary, that now, when I look back, I realise that we were not consistent in our challenge for the League.  We consistently challenged for trophies, but not in the League.  Today, we have such a wonderful team that has been able to challenge for the League season after season, but back then we were more inconsistent. We had good days and bad days, but almost any team in the division could challenge back then. There were no easy games.  In 1969 I also shared the FWA player of the year with Dave Mackay, so it was a good season.  People had suggested I’d win it the year before because I’d played every game and we’d won the League.  I was getting a lot of praise but George Best won it that year. So, the year I won it, it was a surprise.  A great feeling and I remember being at the award dinner.  For me though, it was an achievement for the entire team.  You need a good team around you to win awards like these, and we certainly had a great team.

What are your memories of City in Europe during that time?

There was Malcolm’s boast about scaring Europe which set us up, but then in the ECWC 1969-70 we did.  The final is the strongest memory but mostly because of the rain. We had a great following of fans, but few locals and Gornik fans were there, and they were all drenched.  I felt so sorry for them.  We won the cup, of course, and that season we’d also won the League Cup.  I wanted to go on forever by that time.  I was enjoying it and those two years became four and I was 36.  I couldn’t wait for the next season.  I was like an 18 year old who had just been given his chance.

1971 ECWC v Chelsea. Tony Book and mascot Paul Todd. Photo by Alan Jubb

Is there anything from your playing career that you would change if you could?

Ah, yes. I gave the referee an elbow at Ipswich! He’d disallowed a goal. At Ipswich, you had to go down a corridor as you went in at half time and as I turned I deliberately elbowed him. He went down.  I was called to an FA disciplinary meeting and the first question they asked was “would you like your past record to be taken into consideration?”  Well, I’d only been a pro for a couple of years so I said yes, thinking it’ll be great.  They then brought out information going years back from my non-league days and it all worked against me!

When it came time to retire from playing, was that your choice?

No.  Johnny Hart had been manager but was ill and Peter Swales asked me to take over on a temporary basis in October 1973. I managed the team for about five weeks until Ron Saunders came in and he had a chat with me suggesting I was needed more as a coach/assistant than a player.  I wish now I’d said I wanted to finish playing at the end of the season because I think that would have helped him more.  There were issues between him and some of the playing squad and I think I could have helped him, had I been a player. He was insistent though. 

Ron Saunders, Peter Swales and Tony Book at Saunders appointment in November 1973

It’s a shame because we got to the League Cup final (1974) and with you in that team, maybe things would have gone differently.  Saunders didn’t last as manager and was gone in April that year. How did you feel?

You see things happening but are unable to change it.  It was tough. I ended up being given the manager’s job and it was a strange period because we’d had turmoil over that season.  I also had to start looking at my pals, the players I had won trophies with, and explain that they needed to move on.  I didn’t want to do that and I found it very hard. Awful! 

As a manager I was proud that in the five years that followed we won the League Cup, finished runners up by a point to Liverpool, and we were in Europe for three consecutive seasons. I had some good players that came in – Dave Watson, Brian Kidd, Asa Hartford – and did an excellent job for me.  I felt we were on our way.

From the moment you took on the job it was progress all the way through and, just before Malcolm returned as ‘coaching overlord’ in January 1979, we had reached the UEFA Cup quarter finals. What was it that made you a success in that role?

The players.  It’s always about the players you manage to sign and what they do for you.  I was more like Joe Mercer as a manager and had good coaches working with me.  Bill Taylor was recommended to me by Don Revie and he was a great coach.

Tony Book, Peter Swales and Kaziu Deyna at Deyna’s signing for Manchester City

City may not have won many trophies during your spell as manager, but we came close, had some great players and, significantly, this was an exciting period to watch.  Then Malcolm came back. Did you welcome the return?

Malcolm is such an important figure in my life that I cannot say anything but positives about him as a man.  I will always be indebted to him.  But I knew that it couldn’t work when he came back.  I knew the chairman, I knew Malcolm, and I knew how they both worked. There was no way they would have been able to work together. It was as simple as that.  That’s what the main difference was between the 60s and 1979. In the 60s we had Albert Alexander as chairman who worked wonderfully with Joe and Malcolm, but it was different in 1979.  It was such a shame, because I thought we were going somewhere.

Silkman, Allison & Book after Peter Barnes scored v Tottenham 3 February 1979

On a day to day basis, what was it like working during that period?

It varied but there were players like Gary Owen and Peter Barnes who I felt had a lot to offer, but they were moved on. It’s difficult to go through it all, but as we know it failed and we were dismissed in October 1980.  I stayed briefly and then became Cardiff manager.  I missed Manchester but was delighted that under John Bond that season ended with the FA Cup final against Spurs.  I got a phone call from John Bond asking me back to City to look after the youth team and I said I’d think about it. In the meantime there was the FA Cup final and as it was the 100th final they invited all surviving captains of cup winning sides.  Myself, Roy Paul, and Joe Mercer (Arsenal) were on the pitch with the others and all of a sudden they announced my name and the City fans erupted into song.  It really got to me, emotionally, and I knew I had to come back. It was one of the best feelings I ever had.  Returning to City was the right thing and I had a wonderful time working with Ken Barnes, Glyn Pardoe and all those talented young lads.  We won the Youth Cup in 1986 and it was a real pleasure being there at the start of so many careers. 

This year I’ve interviewed quite a few of the players who had progressed through the youth team while you were there. Every one of them has talked with affection about your approach, driving them on.  I think it’s amazing really that your influence has been there at City year after year since 1966. How does it make you feel to have had three great distinct careers at the club?

I love this club and am grateful to all those who brought me here and involved me for so long.  Whenever I’ve been given a job to do I’ve always tried to give my best.  When it all came to an end in the 90s it hit me hard and there were issues that were well documented, but since then Francis Lee and I have resolved our differences.  Actually, I think it says something that so many of our former players come to games these days, and all of those players from that Mercer-Allison team are so proud of how this club is challenging once more.  We’re enjoying the success and the consistency season after season.  Having said that I loved my days as a player and would never swap them… I would have loved us to have these pitches though. They’re perfect. How great would the likes of Colin Bell have been on these surfaces?

The 1960s: Significance of Tony Book

It seems appropriate in the week that Tony Book died that I write an article highlighting how significant Tony was as a player.

As a player Tony was a hugely successful captain with Manchester City during the Mercer-Allison period.  He was undoubtedly a key figure in each of City’s trophy successes during the seasons 1967 to 1970, and was regarded by many at the time as the greatest ever captain to have appeared for the Blues.  Certainly his record of trophy success placed him some way ahead of all earlier captains. His trophy record has been eclipsed of course but do not let that downplay anything of what he achieved. Few in the game had ever achieved what he had. It’s even more remarkable when you consider his age when he arrived at Maine Road.

Book joined the Blues in July 1966 for £17,000 after a relatively brief League career with Plymouth Argyle.  The transfer was one that saw Malcolm Allison use all his skills to persuade City boss Joe Mercer to take a gamble.  

Allison had been a fan of Book’s ever since their days together at Bath City and the City coach explained the player’s strengths to Mercer.  It should be remembered that Book had only made his League debut a month before his 30th birthday.  Mercer, remembering how his own career had been given a new lease of life at a similar age, backed Allison’s judgement, and the Tony Book fairy tale began.  

Within weeks, Book was considered to be one of the driving forces on the pitch at City. The following cutting is from the end of August 1966 and mentions him:

Inevitably, Book played a major part in each City trophy success following his arrival at Maine Road, but he was also voted FWA Footballer of the Year (held jointly with Derby’s Dave Mackay) in 1969.  It was a fitting award and said much about what made Manchester City tick – potentially he should have been awarded it in 1968 but there are several stories about that season’s award which we’ll save for another day. 

Alan Jubb’s photo of Tony Book with League Championship trophy, 1968

Had the FWA award been given to one of City’s more familiar names – Bell, Lee or Summerbee – then that would of course have been a great honour, but going to Book proved that the side was more about teamwork than about individuality.  Book was City’s influential captain.  He did more than most to bring glory to the Blues. 

People often overlook what happened when he was missing from the team. After winning the title in 1968 Book was injured during the close season and ended up missing the opening 25 League games, plus City’s first European Cup tie. It is significant that during his absence City struggled to find consistency both in the league and the other competitions.  Once he returned to the side the Blues powered their way to FA Cup glory. It makes me wonder what would have happened that season had he been fit from the start. He ended that season after playing only 21 League and FA Cup games – and was still judged FWA Footballer of the Year! What an achievement.

1969 MCFC

Tony eventually moved into coaching and, once his playing days came to an end, he developed a new career as an inspirational coach and manager. I’ll talk about that another day.

It cannot be stressed highly enough that Tony Book’s position in City’s history is a significant one.  He was a tremendous player, inspiring coach, and a loyal club servant. His time as a player was one of significant achievement, with him taking the lead for most of his playing days. His time as manager was also, without doubt, one of the most exciting periods in the club’s history.  He brought major success and allowed City to challenge the near-dominant Liverpool.  It wasn’t until the arrival of Roberto Mancini that a City manager found major trophy success again.

The 1960s: 1966-1967 A Late Developer

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Cossack Allison

On this day (April 3) in 1965 Manchester City defeated Malcolm Allison’s Plymouth 2-1 before a pitiful Maine Road crowd of 10,929. This was a desperate Second Division season for the Blues but it was also a time when the Manchester press laughed at Allison.

Allison, wearing a Cossack hat for the match, had entertained Mancunians earlier in the season by outlining his footballing aims in the Football Pink. Some of these were viewed as ludicrous by local journalists at the time but little did they realise that within four months of this victory over Plymouth Allison would be helping to transform City.

Back in the 1990s I interviewed Malcolm about joining City and the transformation of the Blues. This hour+ interview has now been posted in its entirety to this site. You can access it here:

The 1970s: Malcolm Allison

The series of features/articles covering Manchester City in the 1970s continues with this article on Malcolm Allison. Allison’s two spells as City manager only saw the Blues receive one trophy – the 1972 Charity Shield – however he deserves to be profiled as his contribution during the glory years of 1965 to 1972 was equal to that of manager Joe Mercer.

Allison arrived at Maine Road in July 1965 as assistant manager to Mercer, and by the time he left for the first time over seven years later, City had won almost every trophy possible. 

During that time Allison worked closely with the players and it’s worth noting that the close relationship he developed with the players fostered a great team spirit which, possibly above all else, helped the Blues succeed.  Allison’s influence was felt throughout the club and his approach was refreshing.  He was like a breath of fresh air and helped bring life to the club after a particularly depressing spell – remember earlier in 1965 the club attracted only eight thousand for a couple of League games and some felt the Blues would never return to the top flight never mind find trophy success.

Allison was a major influence throughout the club and his ‘fortune favours the brave’ swashbuckling approach helped sweep aside all opposition.  In fact as the 1960s progressed Allison typified Sixties Manchester, and he became a man idolised by most Blues and many neutrals.  He had a certain charisma which few leading footballing figures possessed at the time, and his dynamism was infectious.  If Allison said City was going to win everybody believed him; when he said City would terrify Europe no one doubted him.  Of course, the terrify Europe comment came to haunt him when the Blues were defeated by Fenerbahce in their first European tie, however Allison had the last laugh when City won the European Cup Winners’ Cup the following season.  When I interviewed him in the early 1990s he laughed: “I said we’d terrify Europe, but I didn’t say when!”

During his time at Maine Road Allison was responsible for a number of the key transfers which transformed the club’s fortunes.  Colin Bell and Francis Lee were two signings he claimed personal credit for when I interviewed him: “When I signed Bell I had to pretend he was no good to put the other clubs off because we didn’t have enough money and couldn’t afford to get into a bidding war.  With Francis Lee I told him I’d make him a great player, and when I left the room he told everyone I was an arrogant so and so!  But he did join us and he was a great player, perhaps the key to the Championship success.”

Allison was also responsible for the arrival of captain Tony Book.  Book brought a steadying influence to City both in defence and across the pitch, and flourished at Maine Road as a player and later as a manager.

Another great aspect of Allison’s time at City was his ability to grab the headlines for the club. Prior to his arrival, City struggled to get positive coverage in the local press but, together with Joe Mercer, Allison knew how to bring attention to the club.  Mercer was the all-smiling public establishment type figure who would provide a serious story in a light-hearted way, while Allison was more boastful and always likely to make the bold statements many supporters demanded.  Allison would often taunt the opposition.  He once walked up to the Stretford End before an early seventies derby match and held up four fingers to indicate how many goals he expected City to score against the Reds.  Understandably, the United fans hurled abuse at him, but by the end of the match the confident Allison was laughing as City won 4-1. That’s why he was such an important figure. He understood what made City tick.

Sadly, the early seventies saw a rift between Mercer and Allison – they supported different groups during a takeover battle – and the partnership fell apart.  Allison became Manager in his own right but he was no longer able to motivate himself in the right way. In 1992 he told me: “Kenny Dalglish wanted a sabbatical at Liverpool to ease the pressure a few years back, and I think if I’d been offered something similar I’d have come back stronger but in those days you either managed or left.  There was no choice.”

Allison then started a journey which would see him return to Maine Road in 1979, as well as have spells at Crystal Palace, Lisbon, Istanbul, Middlesbrough, Kuwait, and a whole host of other locations.  Some like his image were exotic, others were not.  He achieved some real success – most notably in Portugal – and some abject failure but he always remained the ‘Big Mal’ every City fan loved. His last public managerial role saw him help Bristol Rovers face Ron Atkinson’s Aston Villa in the Cup during the 1992-3 season. The media had described it as ‘Big Mal V Big Ron’ but Allison insisted on telling the BBC that he was the only ‘Big’ in football and that his opponent was ‘Fat Ron’.  It didn’t alter the result of the game, but it gained the headlines.

Of course, despite Allison’s enormous role in Manchester football it has to be stressed that his second spell at Maine Road was not a successful period.  With hindsight Allison should never have returned, but when the announcement had initially been made there wasn’t a single supporter who complained.  Everybody wanted him back.

Allison remains one of the most important figures in the history of the club and in European football.

This series of articles and features on Manchester City in the 1970s has been running throughout January and February with indepth articles some days and smaller ‘on this day’ style posts on others. Every day offered something to enjoy.

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The 1970s: Away at Plymouth

This footage of Plymouth v Manchester City from fifty years ago today (23 January 1974) is well worth watching for a few reasons. First it’s an important game on the way to Wembley for Manchester’s Blues. Also, you can see both a disallowed goal from Denis Law and a muddy slip by Willie Donachie (extremely rare for any slip up from Donachie but it was the conditions here that failed!). Also, when Tommy Booth rescues the League Cup tie for the Blues listen out for Helen ‘the Bell’ Turner’s bell!

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The 1970s: 1973-1974 Wembley Return

The series of features/articles covering Manchester City in the 1970s continues with a 1,700 word article on the entire 1973-74 season – a season which included a Wembley final, multiple managerial changes and a controversial Manchester Derby at Old Trafford! You can read this below. This series of articles and features on Manchester City in the 1970s has been running throughout January with indepth articles some days and smaller ‘on this day’ style posts on others. Every day in January will offer something to enjoy.

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On this day… Malcolm Allison joins Manchester City

On this day (July 20) in 1965 Malcolm Allison was formally interviewed by the Manchester City board to be manager Joe Mercer’s assistant. Mercer had wanted to bring Allison in since he took the job earlier in the month. Here is a feature I did on Allison back in January 2005.

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The Smart Set – Club Colours 90 Years Ago

On this day (28th November) in 1931 the Liverpool Echo published this George Green cartoon of the kits worn by several leading clubs of the period. I thought I’d post it here to show how these things were often portrayed in the newspapers of the day. Thanks.

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