These days most football clubs have community and charity connections with staff determining whether a worthy cause fits with the club’s plans. If letters are sent to players asking for support then these quite often are handled by other personnel. Back in the 1970s things were different.
On 31 May 1974 this article appeared in a newspaper in the north east following a tragedy at sea. A letter had been sent to Colin Bell asking if he could help raise funds for the dependents of four men drowned in the tragedy. Not only did Colin reply, but he sent a signed football and arranged for his sister to attend the fundraising draw. He had hoped to be there himself but he was on international duty.
For Colin, replying to supporter or charity letters like this was something that mattered.
As usual, once the domestic season ends I update the table showing the English clubs’ span of success – i.e. the number of years between a club’s first major success (FA Cup, League, League Cup, European trophy) and their most recent. There’s actually not much difference between last year’s final table and this:
Okay, the span of success does not show how many trophies each club has won or how frequently that club has experienced great eras of success, but it does demonstrate how wrong those people are who believe certain clubs were unsuccessful until recent years, or those who think certain clubs have always been giants. The column on first major success helps to show when some clubs first became trophy-winning significant (often after transformational investment too!).
There’s not much difference between 2023 and 2024 – numbers have changed but not positions. In 2023 West Ham proved that if you’re a club that hasn’t won a major trophy for a while putting your focus on achieving trophy success ahead of the odd Premier League position can bring significant reward. In future decades no one will remember who finished seventh, tenth or fifteenth but they will remember the trophies. Here’s last year’s table for comparison purposes:
I know clubs focus on their financials but winning a trophy has longevity, gaining the odd Premier League place provides a bit of extra cash now but no long term kudos. Winning a trophy attracts new fans and brings money-spinning opportunities too.
If I was a supporter of any of the major clubs who have not found significant success in recent decades then I would absolutely want my team to go for whichever cup competition seems the most likely to win. That’s what I always wanted from City before they were able to compete for the League again. Winning the FA Cup in 2011 helped everything that followed happen – it gave confidence and a trophy winning mentality.
While you’re here why not take a look at the wide range of articles available on this site? Such as last summer’s 100 day series of features on Maine Road:
On 26 May 1964 Mancunian Mike Doyle signed professional forms for Manchester City. He embodied a spirit and determination as a player that brought great success and the loyal support of City fans. He was a vital member of two successful periods at Maine Road, and had managed to bridge the gap between Mercer and Allison’s great team of the late 60s and Book’s mid-70s entertainers. In fact he was also there for the miserable period that predated Mercer’s arrival!
Doyle joined the City groundstaff in May 1962 and made his debut in the 2-2 draw at Cardiff on 12 March 1965 and appeared in 6 games during the latter end of a traumatic season. That summer Mercer & Allison arrived and transformed the Blues with Doyle playing a leading role in every City triumph of the period. In fact, until recent years he shared the distinction with Tommy Booth of appearing in more finals than any other City player. He appeared in ECWC, FA Cup and 3 League Cup finals but also played his part in the League title success in 1968 and Second Division title in 1966. He even captained City to their 1976 League Cup triumph and scored in the 1970 victory.
Ever the determined player City fans loved his fighting spirit and never say die attitude. Significantly, in an era of major talent and success, Doyle was voted City’s player of the year twice (1971 & 1974). After making five appearances for England and over 550 competitive first team appearances for the Blues he moved to Stoke in 1978, where he was voted their player of the year in 1979, and later had spells at Bolton and Rochdale.
Mike Doyle was a tremendous City player who played in a determined manner. He won many admirers with his total dedication to the Blue cause. He died on 27 June 2011.
On this day (25 May) in 1971 defender Howard White signed professional forms for Manchester City. White had a very unlucky career at Maine Road. He had alread made his debut on 24 April 1971 in a controversial League game with Liverpool.
Basically, Liverpool were enjoying a busy, competitive season and decided to rest several key players. This was against League rules and as City had also fielded a side that seemed to be relatively inexperienced, the League investigated.
The game ended 2-2 and the League eventually fined Liverpool for fielding a weakened side, but judged that City had managed to field their strongest side considering injuries etc. For White the game was a low point as he suffered a broken ankle shortly before half time and was never again able to make a first team appearance.
Good luck to all those interested in, attending and watching the second all-Manchester FA Cup final today. Let’s make sure it’s another that makes the world see the quality of Manchester’s football and fans.
Tomorrow will see Manchester City and Manchester United face each other in the second All-Manchester FA Cup final. This promises to be another dramatic day in the history of Manchester football (we are so blessed being able to see days like these).
Obviously, the game could go either way and I don’t want to make predictions as derby days are often difficult to predict. I well remember arriving at Maine Road in September 1989 when Alex Ferguson’s United were most expensive squad ever assembled in British football at the time. That day City fans feared the worst and by full-time the Blues had defeated the Reds 5-1 with chants of Fergie Out coming from the fans left in the away section of the Platt Lane Stand. Who would have thought that night that he would keep his job and bring so much success to the Reds?
Whatever happens enjoy the day and game. Clearly, if United win then that will help their development and if City win then that will mean four major trophies have been won this season – the other three are of course the Premier League, the UEFA Super Cup and the FIFA Club World Cup. Not bad hey? Add to that the FA Youth Cup and it’s been another great season.
Thanks to everyone who has subscribed to Manchester Corinthians: The Authorised History. Research and interviews have been continuing for the book, which will be published later this year. I’ll keep subscribers posted with details over the coming month.
I can state with real accuracy that I have captured voices from every season of the club’s history from 1948-49 through to its final game. I’m really pleased with that and, together with the deepest research ever into the club’s history, this promises to be a fairly definitive story of the club. I say ‘fairly’ because it’s impossible for anything to be definitive but this will contain more information than any other source.
Thanks to all those who have subscribed to the book – it helps enormously as the book and the years of research that have gone into this is all self-funded.
For those who haven’t subscribed or would like to know more on what the book will entail, here’s the latest information:
The book will tell the story via the voices of those involved from beginning to end (and beyond!), backed up with detailed archival research.
Myths, including some connected with the formation of the club, persist and still get promoted. For the first time, this Authorised History will highlight the key steps and people involved with the formation of the club, dispelling myths and properly acknowledging those who ensured the team had a life.
Hundreds of games have been identified with official – and unofficial – match reports adding flavour and supporting the words of the women who played.
Rare objects, cuttings, match programmes, trophies and more have been located for this book, with many of the players lending their collections to help ensure this is a wonderful record of the club’s full life.
The Manchester Corinthians’ tours across the globe will be featured extensively within the book, while the key managers (especially the club’s manager and guiding figure from 1948-49 until his death in 1967, Percy Ashley) and other personalities will be profiled.
Dozens of interviews have been performed for the book and include women who played in the club’s first ever game in 1948-49 and others who played in the last ever game, decades later. It’s a wonderful period of football history.
Voices from every season of the club’s existence have been captured. There are some truly remarkable stories gathered in interviews performed across the country. These wonderful women have provided their memories of every period of the club’s development. Every season is covered.
Over 300 players have been identified as playing for the Corinthians to date. These women come from every era of the club’s existence (but the search continues for other names – please get in touch: Gary@GJFootballArchive.com). Every player identified will be listed within the book.
Every person ordering the book before publication will not only have the book posted to them before it appears in any shop, but they will also have their name (or another name of their choosing) published within a special roll of honour at the back of the book.
The book will consist of over 320 pages and will include hundreds of images from every era of the Corinthians, alongside the story of the club and its players.
As with Gary’s book on Manchester City Women this book is destined to be a landmark history on a true Manchester institution and pioneering football club. In some ways this new Corinthians’ history will be a prequel to the City Women book.
This book is being self funded by Gary and so every pre-publication order helps the research enormously. Thanks for your support. It is appreciated.
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Here’s one of the TV reports that covered our plaque unveiling back in October. This is from ITV National News:
Here are a few words from a review of the Manchester City Women book the Corinthians will be based on (this is from a review by Fiona Cosson, for the Oral History Society):
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Manchester football historian Dr Gary James has been researching and writing about football for around forty years, with his first book published in 1989. By that time Gary was a regular at women’s football games in the region and already knew several Corinthians featured in the Corinthians’ book. His connections with the team go way back, in fact his sister was taught PE in the 1980s by a prominent player with the club, while his mum once told him about an older girl being brought to the front in her school assembly during the 1950s to talk about travelling abroad as a Manchester Corinthian.
Gary was on the steering committee for the National Football Museum project Unlocking the Hidden History of Women’s Football and was the Trafford lead for the UEFA/FA project on the history of women’s football for the Women’s Euros in 2022. He has performed various talks and written many significant articles on the Manchester Corinthians throughout the last six years. He established the campaign to create a blue plaque and other tributes for the women who played for the club, working tirelessly to ensure the Corinthians’ receive the accolades they so richly deserve.
Gary’s research and writing is recognised for his quality and depth, and he has written several landmark publications on Manchester football (both men’s and women’s), as well as being historical consultant with films, such as The Keeper, and TV (including researching and producing a 6 part TV series). Gary is the founder of the International Football History Conference and in 2023 was appointed Visiting Research Professor at New York University. He is also an Honorary Research Fellow at De Montfort University.
You can watch a one hour talk Gary did at the National Football Museum on the history of women’s football in the Manchester region here:
The cover is still in development but the two cover images are draft proposals which will be worked up further. If you’d like to purchase Gary James’ earlier book on Manchester City Women’s team then a limited number of copies, signed by me, are still available. You can order here:
Well, the Premier League is now over for another year and we know who the Champions (4-in-a-row) are and who has qualified for Europe etc. so it’s time to look forward to the second all Manchester FA Cup final. The first was of course last season and started off wonderfully for Manchester’s Blues with that record-making Gundogan opener.
Prior to this last year’s final, the closest Manchester City and Manchester United got to playing each other in a Wembley FA Cup final were the FA Cup semi finals in 1926 and 2011. I wasn’t around in 1926 but I definitely was in 2011! A few years back I made this special audio recording talking about the years building up to the semi and the day itself from a Manchester City perspective. Many of you have listened to this already but if you haven’t then it tells the story of the 2011 FA Cup semi final and the years between 1976 and that moment in 2011 for City.
I included audio from interviews I did with a variety of people including Khaldoon, Peter Swales, Garry Cook, Brain Marwood and many others.
If you have heard it before then maybe you should listen again to remind yourself of how we all felt and why that game was so significant.
I included a few words from Roberto Mancini recorded in 2011 and at one point he talks about the view that was then being expressed that City were ‘trying’ to buy success (now they say City ‘have’ bought success!). His words are a reminder that City have been having that particular criticism thrown at them for over a decade! Oh well, I wonder how long those criticisms were laid at other clubs who had seen major investment which propelled them forward?
Anyway, get yourself a brew and be prepared to be transported back in time. Here’s the recording:
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The latest International Football History Conference will be staged in two weeks time at Cardiff City’s stadium. Delegates from around the world will meet up to discuss football (of all codes). It’s always a great conference and it’s a great opportunity to meet other historians, writers, researchers and enthusiasts. The details are:
International Football History Conference 2024 (#Footycon24)
7 & 8 June 2024 at Cardiff City Football Club
Guest speaker: Professor Florence Ayisi (film maker of Zanzibar Soccer Queens & others)
The 2024 annual International Football History Conference will take place at Cardiff City F.C. and will be held over two days (7 & 8 June 2024). There will be a fantastic collection of papers being presented with contributions from leading academics from across the globe including many leaders in their field, as well as early career researchers and others with a passion for football (of all codes) research.
The conference organisers are: Max Portman, University of Chichester, Professor Wray Vamplew, University of Edinburgh and Dr. Gary James, Visiting Research Professor at New York University & Honorary Research Fellow at De Montfort University.
Gary James: ‘The inaugural International Football History Conference was staged in 2017 and proved popular with leading academics, early career researchers, football historians and students. That was followed in 2018 & 2019 by further enjoyable conferences. Covid meant we had to cancel our 2020 & 2021 conferences but, in 2022 we returned with another great conference. In 2023 we took the conference to Glasgow and the historic Hampden Park Stadium, which added further to its status. This year we’re taking it to Wales for the first time and are delighted to be staging it at Cardiff City’s home. This year’s event promises to be another significant conference with world leading research presented, while also providing networking opportunities, as well as the potential for collaborations.’
**** THE TITLES OF PRESENTATIONS ARE DOCUMENTED BELOW ****
The conference will run from Friday morning c.08.30 and end on Saturday about 18.00. There is anticipated to be social gatherings on both Thursday 6 June for those arriving the day before the conference and one on the evening of Friday 7 June.
COST OF ATTENDANCE £139 (delegates in employment) and £129 (students/unwaged/retired delegates). Held at Cardiff City FC 08:30 to 18:00 on both days. You can book here:
In 2022 & 2023 we added a special day rate for those who can only attend on one day and we’re doing that again this year for those who can only attend on one day. The day rate is £76 (delegates in employment) and £67.50 (students/unwaged/retired delegates).
Delegates will need to make their own arrangements regarding accommodation & travel for the conference. We hope to have a social gathering on Friday evening in central Cardiff. If you would like some advice on where to stay please contact the organisers via footycon@outlook.com
As with previous years there will be awards in connection with papers presented. Routledge will be providing these for a daily Best Paper Award and for a new inclusivity award.
Here is a draft list of presenters and topics (the timings and specific details will folllow):
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