Swansea and City

It’s Swansea v Manchester City tonight in the League Cup and so Here’s a few historical facts and stats about games between the two clubs.

Game One: The first competitive meeting between the two teams came in Division Two on 25 September 1926. The Blues had been relegated the previous May and the historic first meeting with Swansea Town (Swansea was not a city at this point) ended in a 3-1 City victory at Maine Road, before 24,314 fans. George Hicks, Tommy Johnson & Frank Roberts netted for the Blues.

The return game also ended in a 3-1 win on 12 February 1927. Hicks and Johnson both scored again, with Johnson netting twice. A Swansea crowd of 20,345 watched on.

The first top flight game between the sides didn’t come until 21 November 1981 (following Swansea’s promotion) and saw two each from Kevin Reeves and Dennis Tueart (the first a penalty 4 minutes before half time) help City to a 4-0 win.

The first Premier League meeting came on 15 August 2011 – another 4-0 City win. This time Dzeko, Aguero (2) and David Silva each scored at the Etihad before 46,802. Film of that game here:

https://www.mancity.com/citytv/match-highlights/2011/august/city-v-swansea-60-seconds

Incredibly the first FA Cup meeting didn’t come until 16 March 2019 and this saw City win 3-2 at Swansea (OG from Kristoffer Nordfeldt, Bernardo Silva & Sergio Aguero). City had been losing 2-0 (a penalty from Matt Grimes in 20th minute and Bersant Celina netted the other in 29th minute) up until Silva’s 69th minute goal. The action from this game can be viewed here:

https://www.mancity.com/citytv/match-highlights/2019/march/swansea-v-city-highlights-extended

The first League Cup tie was a 2-1 City win at Swansea in 2016:

https://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/History/Matches/Match.aspx?id=5300

The highest scoring game between the teams came in August 1927 when City beat Swansea Town 7-4 in Division Two. 34,316 watched a hat trick from Tommy Johnson and other goals from Peter Bell, Charlie Broadhurst, George Hicks and Frank Roberts.

Here’s hoping tonight’s game brings as much entertainment as that one did.

While you’re here, it’s worth taking a look at something else already posted on http://www.GJFootballArchive.com. It’s a profile of Tommy Hutchison who was a cult hero at MCFC and also spent time with Swansea City:

THE STARTING ELEVEN – Tommy Hutchison

An Official Programme from October 1900

Here’s the Official Programme cover and Manchester City comments (below), published on 27 October 1900 for City’s game with Derby at Hyde Road. Back then the programme was a shared one with Second Division Newton Heath (later United) and a couple of rugby clubs. the comments below on City’s performances and preview of the Derby game are interesting. The 3-0 game it opens with was City’s 3-0 Division One defeat at Sunderland. The Monday game it mentions was a 2-0 victory over Newton Heath in the Lancashire Cup.

The ‘Doctor’ mentioned lower down was City half back William ‘Doc’ Holmes. The preview suggested this would be a tough game for City, though the return of Jimmy Ross was welcomed. Ross, a former Preston Invincible, was a key member of the side and he’d been sidelined for the previous six League games.

The match with Derby ended in a 2-0 victory with both goals scored by Fred Williams. If you’d like to find out more on this season for Manchester City then why not read the following 1200+ word article telling the story of 1900-01? Why not subscribe and read this and all the other content on here? You can even try it for a month at a time if that works best?

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Manchester City’s Three Royal Boxes!

Last Saturday (25 October 2025) I was fortunate to be invited to the England v Brazil women’s international as a guest of the FA. My seat was in the Royal Box at the Etihad (City of Manchester Stadium as it was named on the night due to sponsorship reasons). On social media someone commented that the Royal Box was a bit of a stretch in terms of its name but the truth is that the Directors Box (as it’s more commonly known) has housed members of the British royal family, including the late Queen Elizabeth II. In fact it was originally named the Royal Box for the Commonwealth Games in 2002. Back then I remember suggesting it should retain the name and now, maybe, the original name should return?

Other royals, including the former King of Spain, have sat there for Manchester City games and other events, so the name would be quite apt. Funnily enough, the Etihad’s ‘Royal Box’ isn’t the first part of a City ground to be given that name. It’s not even the second but the third! Both Maine Road and before that Hyde Road, had visits from senior members of the British Royal Family and on each occasion the Directors Box was spruced up and renamed the Royal Box for the game. Here’s the current King’s great grandad at Hyde Road’s Royal Box in 1920:

The King with the Mayor in Hyde Road’s ‘Royal Box’. Notice Lawrence Furniss stood, behind the King. Furniss was a major figure from the 1880s to the 1940s at City.

So, City, how about renaming the Directors Box the Royal Box again?

The following subscriber article talks about all of that, but in essence the current King’s dad, grandad and great grandad have all attended City matches at one of City’s home grounds. You can read about those visits here:

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The 1920s: Liverpool 1 Manchester City 6

On this day (26 October 1929) Manchester City thrashed Liverpool 6-1 at Anfield with goals from Eric Brook 2, Tommy Johnson 2 and Tommy Tait 2. This match at Anfield was watched by 37,009. You can find out more on the 1929-30 season below in this piece for subscribers (see below). I hope you enjoy it. If you don’t subscribe then why not try it for a month (£3 per month or sign up for a year at a discounted £20 per year)?

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City Crisis!

Forty years ago (published on 25 October 1985) the Daily Mirror covered the staggering news that Manchester City’s financial crisis meant that they were paying £1,000 a day in bank loan interest alone. How times change!

The 1980s was a truly important decade in the history of Manchester City Football Club and you can find out more on this season (and why the club was in debt) by reading the following 2,500 word feature on 1985-86 (available to subscribers). Enjoy!

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Trautmann Coaches in Pakistan

40 years ago today (23 October 1985) it was reported that the former Manchester City goalkeeper Bert Trautmann was going to coach in Pakistan. Back then Trautmann worked as a kind of footballing ambassador on behalf of West Germany and he also coached in Africa for a while.

The 2000s: This Is Our City

This doesn’t feel that long ago but it’s twenty years (this article is from 26 October 2005) since the This Is Our City campaign was doing the rounds on Manchester billboards. Back then phrases like ‘Real Manchester’ formed part of a campaign by City to make the club’s presence felt across the city. Some of these (like the one mentioned in the image) were attacked by rival fans, but overwhelmingly City’s own support felt positively about the campaign.

A few years later this campaign was part of the inspiration behind the ‘Welcome To Manchester’ poster that welcomed Carlos Tevez to City.

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Charlton-Arsenal Attendance

Here’s a cutting from a Manchester City match programme in October 1936 which talks of a game between Charlton and Arsenal, played on 17 October 1936. The official attendance that day was 68,160 for the League game. Note how it talks of Arsenal leaving their original base south of the Thames due to issues attracting crowds and then the mention of Charlton’s popularity in south London.

Incidentally, Manchester City’s record League attendance at this time was 79,491 and record attendance was 84,569.

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Ricky Hatton, Hattersley and Hyde

It’s been over a month since Ricky’s death and I just wanted to get a few thoughts down which have been crossing my mind a lot recently. Ricky was – and will remain – rightly a significant hero to many. His career and life have touched so many Mancunians, boxing fans and the wider public too. He lived his early life on the same council estate as me (Hattersley) and I think it’s important to talk a bit about Hattersley and the town of Hyde. There was a photo that appeared the day before Ricky’s funeral which showed him as a young boy in front of a white fence – those white fences were familiar to residents of Hattersley and I think we all probably had a photo with one in the background. I know I did.

It was actually that photo that set me off thinking about my own childhood and life.

The young Gary wearing his first City kit, with a Hattersley white fence behind

Hattersley is a large overspill estate built in the 1960s to house families moved out of Manchester as part of the awfully named slum clearance programme. Before I was born my parents lived in Bradford (Manchester) close to where the present-day Etihad Stadium is and they were told their house would be demolished as part of the clearance programme. They were moved to Hattersley, a new estate built in what was at the time Cheshire. Their new house was almost ten miles from their old one. Communities were ripped apart and the new estate at that time offered little in the way of employment, forcing many (like my dad) to look towards Manchester for employment. Like all overspill estates it has had its problems but there have always been many, many good people living there.

Many of the established residents living in Hattersley’s neighbouring village of Mottram or in Hyde itself resented the new estate full of Mancunians being dropped onto their green fields. Nowadays, planning permission would probably never get granted for such a large estate to be plonked there. The artist LS Lowry, a well-known Mancunian/Salfordian (actually born in Stretford and also a prominent Manchester City fan who talked of his love for City), lived at Mottram and was quoted once comparing Hattersley’s tower blocks (since demolished) to New York. He wasn’t impressed.

I was born a few years before Ricky, but those of us living on the estate as children and young adults in the 70s and 80s were often labelled in some way. There was a bit of prejudice against us, and this wasn’t helped by the fact that the Moors Murderers were living on Hattersley at the time of their arrest (and had murdered there too). Their house was demolished in 1987, over 20 years after their arrest, and was behind the New Inn, the pub where I first saw Ricky. His dad was the landlord, and I used to go there with Paul Alexander (who has also died in the last year or so) as our ‘regular’ pub (I won’t say our age when we first started going there!). Ricky was a young boy occasionally seen in the pub or at the pool table. Back then the fact that Ricky’s dad Ray was a former City apprentice/reserve was probably a factor in drawing Paul and me to the pub – it wasn’t the nearest pub to either of our homes on the estate.

The New Inn as it looked during the 1980s

From an identity point of view those of us growing up on the estate were usually children of Mancunian parents, living on a Manchester council estate (the rent book said Manchester City Council for many, many years) in Cheshire, except it was no longer Cheshire by the mid 70s. It was an invented metropolitan borough called Tameside, linking several towns from parts of northeast Cheshire and southeast Lancashire. We looked towards Manchester and saw ourselves as Mancunians, but we were living ten miles away and some Mancunians said we weren’t Mancs at all, while some from Mottram said we were not locals either back then!

Looking towards Mottram With part of the Hattersley estate in the foreground

When meeting someone or going for job interviews those who knew Hattersley would often make a judgement. You’d feel a change sometimes in the way people would talk to you.  I started work in Hyde at 16 (Youth Training Scheme at a prominent building society of the era) and I heard negative comments frequently from managerial figures about the estate; the people who lived at Hattersley and so on. In later years Hyde suffered from Dr Shipman’s crimes too and, nationally, Hyde and Hattersley tended to be known for Brady, Hindley and Shipman and not for the incredible things the people of the town have achieved. Judgement can be an awful thing.

Identity and role models are important to us all and we need to look for others like us who can act as role models. It’s so important to see people achieve something that are as ordinary as we are, living in the places we live and experiencing the things we experience. That’s why Ricky Hatton is so important to many people.  He’s rightly idolised by the people of Hattersley and Hyde because he was the local boy who did well. He always seemed to be a positive influence and for anyone growing up in the years after Ricky’s first successes he was someone to look up to. He came along at a time when Hattersley and Hyde needed a hero, and he delivered time and time again.

There are other Hattersley role models of course, for example Chris Bird became the Managing Director of Manchester City and Shayne Ward (singer/actor) lived there before the age of ten and went to the same primary school as me (many, many years after I left the school!). But Ricky was always the People’s Champion and a man who remained firmly fixed in our minds as the lad from Hattersley who took on the world and brought major glory home. He also continued to be seen in and around Hattersley and Hyde, adding to his status as a man of the people.

Let’s not forget too that at a time when it was unfashionable to support Manchester City Ricky made sure everybody knew he was a Blue. Like Noel and Liam he was often seen promoting the club and talking about life as a City fan.

So much has been said about Ricky and my words add nothing I guess (If anyone’s interested, I wrote something elsewhere on the site about the time I interviewed Ricky in his training boxing ring a few years back as part of a Manchester City academy session), but I think it’s worth getting things off our chest at times. It’s important to talk. 

On a personal level my thoughts are with his family and close friends. I’m delighted that Ricky’s name keeps being chanted at Manchester City games (and that a banner and other tributes continue to appear) but, of course, like so many others I wish he was still here. We’ve lost quite a few Blues this year including in recent weeks broadcaster John Stapleton and Corinthian footballer Margaret Allen. My thoughts are with all who have suffered a loss recently.

Memorial Cards: Sledging Rivals in 1912

I’ve posted this before but it’s always worth another look. It is believed the memorial card seen here was printed to mark Manchester United’s 2-0 victory over Manchester City on December 28 1912. Cards like these were popular at most high profile games and in Manchester there was a significant industry behind football funeral cards.

They seem a bit macabre today in our half-half friendship version of professional football but back then cards were used to highlight games frequently. I’ve written and talked a lot on this over the years.

Here for subscribers I’d like to provide an overview of the industry, how it existed, what activities were carried out and provide a potted history of the funeral card business. This is about 3,500 words, so get yourself a brew and settle down to read…

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